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#1 Buster

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 11:48 AM

my feul pump is on the blink, its temperamental as all fu**, as most mournings i have to give the tank a brutal massage to get it to start.


so i am goign to replace it, the dilema is buy a BRAND NEW ONE or get one from a wreckers?


i am kinda leaning towards the brand new one for two reasons, first of all, it is 20+ years old, so another s12 will likley have the same problems, and secondly im putting a ca18det in shortly, so to elliminate possible future fuel pump issues i was thinking of getting a aftermarket one.


can i grab ur opinions on this?

also wats a good fuel pump to get if i buy a brand new one?

and lastly how much do they generally go for?




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Posted 14 May 2007 - 12:35 PM

Yeah Jack, Get a (new) walbro intank pump,(don't touch a used fuel pump) they can be had for pretty cheap these days, I think I paid $140 or something all up for mine including postage. It was a GSS341 or 342 I think from memory. They use them as replacements in s13's etc , pretty easy to fit in the s12, in the original pump cradle in place of the original pump motor.

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 12:48 PM

so i shud ask for a s13 walbro fuel pump?

does it matter if its to suit a sr or ca or will they be the same thing?


what about bosh fuel pumps, i was under the impression they are good?


i looked on egay.com
there are so many bosch pumps!!
http://search.ebay.c...PageNameZRC0023

but i couldnt see any for a s13.

i found this walbro one tho:
http://cgi.ebay.com....1QQcmdZViewItem

would they sell these at auto barn or sprint etc?


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Posted 14 May 2007 - 12:53 PM

ive also found this one

http://cgi.ebay.com....1QQcmdZViewItem
despite the ridiculous price tag, how do u rate nismo pumps?

an what are my chances of getting one tahts suitable at a reasonable price?


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Posted 14 May 2007 - 03:06 PM

Be careful on online shops such as E-bay as many Bosh knock-offs exist.
The Walbro pumps are ment to be good for the price and install with basic tools and a soldering ion.

You can buy these kits for quite a low price and its a good upgrade over the stock pump.
To run an external pump you still need an intank pump (unless you make up a custom pickup, in wich case have fun!). So I would dich the external idea, however if you feel the need to do so at a later stage the Walbro would make a good high volume low pressure pump (im soon to be running one before my Bosh 044 external pump).

This is what you get with the kits
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What you want is a Walbro 255lph high pressure fuel pump kit

Here is some info on the pump and its wiring:
http://www.kb0pax.com/s12_fuel_pump
S12 Fuel Pump Operation · KB0PAX

http://www.kb0pax.co..._wiring_diagram
s12_fuel_pump_wiring_diagram · KB0PAX

Ok... Edit:
heres a link to the pump kit on horsepowerinabox
http://www.horsepowe...ategory10_1.htm
See: Walbro 500hp in tank Fuel Pump

It retails for $195 and I have delt with these guys before (turbosmart fuel pressure regulator) and you can have the pump next day depending on your payment option. Or have a chat with your local speed shop and see what it will cost you to get one in from their suppliers . Remember if you order online you oftern have to pay postage so factor that into the total price.

Have fun!
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Edited by Nehemiah, 14 May 2007 - 03:17 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2007 - 03:27 PM

jsut went down to auto barn, they are selling 500hp walbro pumps for $169.

i was told by the sales dude, that this is a fair price. is this true?

are they hard to install? is it a case of remove replace plug in an play?
or will i have to run wires to the ecu, chassis, fuel guage, fuse box, an earth?


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Posted 14 May 2007 - 03:41 PM

just had another thought

waht bout a vl turbo fuel pump?

how well do ppl rate those?
and whats the general price range of one?
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 04:28 PM

If ya want an easy swap that is going to work use the Walbro.
The VL turbo pump is going to be harder to fit than the Walbro.
Is that a fair price? Well the site I listed wants 195$ plus postage so its up to you.

Are you planing an aftermarket comp for the CA?

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 04:34 PM

ive jsut got a stock ecu atm, will prolly stick with that an get a remap eventually


i rekon anything else will be a bit of overkill for what i want
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 05:03 PM

Bosch 040 or 044.....
Honestly my mate put a WALBRO gaybo in his Rb20DET 31... not the best. theres a reason why they r soo cheap for a good rate and hp rating.

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 05:07 PM

040 will def be enough for your ca jack i wouldnt bother with 044 but i ahve heard nothing but good about walbro

cant judge on one stuff up jarreth :D

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 05:55 PM

scored a gss341 walbro pump for 170 + for extra hose just incase.

now just need to put the fucker in!!!

might wait till mourning.
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 05:57 PM

Ive heard ALOT of crap about them, not just one instance.
Put simply, why wud these be nearly half the price of a similar item, they both produce same rate etc.

Im in the market for Fuel pumps also... and can say.. i wont be touching the WALBRO stuff.
Either GTR pump or Bosch 040.

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 09:07 PM

Dont use a GTR pump, go for a proper upgrade.

Also, theres tonnes of walbro copies on the market and they are heaps less reliable.

My walbro is working fine.
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 09:15 PM

The GTR pumps pump a higher rate than a 040... but its second hand so...

Well there ya go. I dunno the ones i have heard of and me mates must be copys n a load of junk lol.
he got his frm ebay so... gota watch b careful..

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 10:54 PM

my walbro is now also working fine :P :yes: :yes: :D
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 10:55 PM

if he did a 040 or any other external pump he would still have to replace his intank pump anyways! because he needs a way to lift the fuel! a good intank pump will do the job very easily!!

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 12:16 AM

Sounds like you had the same problem i did before i installed a Walbro pump.

Is your new pump louder then the stock gazelle one?

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 06:25 AM

no, its much much much quieter, feels much better under foot tho even in the ca20.

still need to get new hose clamps, and i put the float in the wrong position, so the guage is dead atm.

now its time to put the ca18det to make use of the walbro.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 10:18 AM

Good to see it worked out for ya.
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